Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Another Response to an Anti-Mormon

I thought I'd post another response I had for some douche' bag anti Mormon on some Mormon forums. Let me know what you think.

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Brian wrote:
"Your right, I’m pretty much just bored. I don’t want to mess anyones faith up like that.

I just came to the realization that the Book of Mormon isn’t true, and Joseph Smith was actually not a prophet. If he’s not a true prophet than he’s a false prophet. If he is a false prophet that is dangerous. Maybe satan inspired Joseph Smith to do what he did so that a large group(mormon church) would alienate themselves from the BIBLE. The Bible is second to NO book in history, especially joseph smiths 16 century copy of the new testament called the Book of Mormon.

How many times has the Book of Mormon been changed since it’s its first publishing? If this is such a prestine translation of so called "gold plates" why has it been changed?

I’m ready to hear an answer. Actually I’m ready to hear another justification. Justification 324

Whos fault was it this time?"



This whole post completely negates anything even remotely intelligent that you’ve said throughout this whole topic. Don’t worry though, there wasn’t much intelligence in the first place, so don’t worry.

If Joseph Smith was a false prophet, why does he have so many good "fruits”? If you would like to use the Bible, which by the way we do not place "2nd to the Book of Mormon" lets go and read where it talks about fruits:

Matt. 7: 17-19
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Let’s compare this to the Book of Mormon, which is as you claim "from Satan":

"For behold, a bitter fountain cannot bring forth good water; neither can a good fountain bring forth bitter water; wherefore, a man being a servant of the devil cannot follow Christ; and if he follow Christ he cannot be a servant of the devil." That’s in Moroni.

Very similar in the points they’re trying to convey wouldn’t you agree? If Joseph Smith were making this stuff up, don’t you think he would have written the book of Mormon in such a way that it wouldn’t be telling those who read it to question its author, and its pages? He wouldn’t be willing to indict himself within his own false masterpiece!

In Moroni 10:8-9 it is a promise that if you read and pray about what you’ve read, you can receive an answer from the Holy Ghost that it is true. This seems to be yet another thing unlikely to be written by a man who was knowingly writing a book of fiction.

If JS was indeed lead by Satan, that means our prophets and apostles today are being led by Satan. If that’s the case, why on earth would Satan tell us to abstain from use of Tobacco, alcohol, coffee, tea, premarital sex, foul language, pornography, bad thoughts, or anything that would distance you from the Son Jesus Christ? Does that really sound like Satan to you? I don’t care WHAT faith you are, that is NOT Satan! Your own bible says so! No corrupt tree can produce good fruit!! Neither can a bad fountain produce good water, and vice versa. Do you see my point? If not, read the Bible which you so wholeheartedly believe in.

I can deal with you saying that you don’t believe the LDS church is true. I frankly feel bad for you, but it’s still no skin off my back. However, I will not tolerate you coming in here, and saying that Joseph Smith was lead by Satan to bring forth the Book of Mormon and other works which he brought forth.

The Book of Mormon was translated by a prophet of God. I know it to be true for myself. I can sit here and tell you that all day long, but your mind has been made up otherwise, so I won’t beat a dead horse. However, I don’t care what your background is, what you believe, where you come from, etc etc… You CANNOT say that Joseph Smith was lead by Satan. It’s impossible; it’s doctrinally unsound if you want to go by the Bible’s definition. He brought forth too many worthy fruits to be called a man of Satan. Feel free to believe otherwise as far as the Mormon Church as a whole, but you can’t say that regardless of whether or not you believe what Joseph Smith did was true, that it wasn’t remarkable.

Millions of members throughout the world are living better lives that are more Christian based, focusing on the family, service, charity, love, keeping the commandments, etc… That is of God, no matter what you believe. So please refrain from ever talking about Joseph Smith with such disrespect. I don’t care WHAT you believe. You cannot argue the points I’ve made here. He did many great things, and I personally think you should focus on those, rather than all the unimportant pish posh you’re focusing on.

You act like you are seeking answers; however, all you seek are ways of justifying your choices, and making your life a little easier by trying to say that you are doing no wrong.

1 comment:

About Me said...

You should also point out to this douche that his point about the Book of Mormon being changed is ridiculous. The Book of Mormon has gone through about 3 different edits since its original publications, all of which have corrected minor grammar and punctuation mistakes while leaving all concepts and thoughts in tact.

Now you wanna talk about a book being changed? Let's talk about the bible then. How does an "infallible" book go from it's original text, then picked apart by Constantine at the nicean creed leaving only fragments of the original text in tact, followed by transliterations into Greek, Latin, and English, followed by literally hundreds of different versions today, all of which present distinctly different interpretations of the same original text. You wanna talk about a book being changed? Then look no further than the very book you claim has precedence over anything else in this world. Oh I also love that scripture in Peter which says, "no scripture is given of any private interpretation..." it would seem like most protestant Christians have missed that memo.

Good for you Tanner.